This is an article I recently came across in AdAge by Tim Nudd about one of the more creative talents in the industry. It’s a very interesting interview that I think you’ll enjoy.
One of the industry’s most widely admired creatives, Gerry Graf has had quite the journey in advertising. He’s worked at big holding-company agencies and smaller indie boutiques (founding several of the latter himself) and developed a reputation along the way for entertaining—often outlandish—work underpinned by strong strategy.


This month, Graf left Slap Global, the agency he co-founded in 2020 with Maxi Itzkoff, to join Joan Creative as global chief creative officerfollowing the departure of Jaime Robinson. At Joan, he reunites with CEO Lisa Clunie, a Saatchi & Saatchi colleague from two decades ago.
Graf has also gotten into the creative awards game with his own show, Astroland, whose judges are required to be new to the business—as a way of shaking up how the industry views its best output.
As he takes on his new role at Joan, Graf talks about some of his favorite work, past and present, what he’s learned from running Astroland, how to be a better creative and why great ideas always make clients nervous.
Gerry, tell us … your first job in advertising, and your current job.
My first job in advertising was at Saatchi & Saatchi Health writing radio ads for Dexatrim—basically an amphetamine. Each ad starred Deidre Hall from the soap “Days of Our Lives” and started, “Independent studies prove that Dexatrim helps you lose weight.” Now: partner and global chief creative officer at Joan Creative.
An ad or campaign that inspired you coming up in the business.
Donna Weinheim and Cliff Freeman’s “Soviet Fashion Show” for Wendy’s from agency Dancer Fitzgerald Sample. I had a chance to work with Donna later on and confessed to her that I stole her Wendy’s ad structure for my first big hit with Snickers. She forgave me.
The last ad that made you jealous.
A content series for Alexis Bittar Jewelry called “The Bittarverse” from Mason Interactive. Netflix, if you are reading, please make this a series.
A recent project you’re proud of.
The last project I worked on with the greats at Slap Global for Lay’s FIFA World Cup called the Epic Watch Party It took a year to make and a lot of trust between us and a brave client. Messi, Beckham, Alexia Putellas, Steve Carrell and Thierry Henry plan a World Cup watch party. We worked with Meta to create a WhatsApp group so the five could plan in real time; it currently has 5 million members. It’s basically our own content channel where the stars post content, make fun of each other and actually plan a real watch party.
What you’re most excited about in joining Joan as chief creative officer.
Of course Lisa [Clunie, CEO] and all the talent at Joan. And the unrestricted independence to make the world’s best work.
The biggest thing you’ve learned in running the Astroland awards.
Astroland judges have five years or less of experience in advertising. They’re basically all Gen Z. The biggest thing I’ve learned from them is their definition of what an ad is. Winners have been TikTok content series (“Bittarverse”), independent creators messing around, concert tours, pop-up shops, album covers, subreddits, as well as classic 30-second videos. As one judge said, it’s “any creative expression that makes me feel something for a brand.”
One thing that can make anyone a better creative.
Work longer hours than everyone else.
What most brands still don’t understand about creativity.
Great ideas should make you nervous. If you want breakthrough work, there is always an element of risk. Ideas that the world talks about and sell millions of whatever you are selling always have an element that scares the client.
Something people might not know about you.
I was in my school production of “Fiddler on the Roof” as a bottle dancer at Tzeitel and Motel’s wedding.
Where advertising is headed next.
Hopefully we move to a space where advertising tells you something about a product or service that makes you consider buying it.
Hopefully making a ruckus, one blog post at a time!
Be sure to check out my other blog,Joe’s Journey, for selected short stories and personal insights on life and its detours.









